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So, early 16th century Denmark, on the cutting edge of the Reformation. Noble maidens are getting married in their late teens or so; noble men in their 30s. My question: during their hormonal teens and twenties, are these "noble and wellborn knights":
a) living like proverbial monks(1)
b) sublimating their frustrations into politics and war
c) visiting those women about town who by law have to wear red hoods
d) visiting other lower class women(2)
e) visiting other lower class men
f) visiting their unmarried female friends and promising to be really really careful(3)
g) visiting their married female friends(4)
h) visiting their male friends
i) other ____________
Yes, obviously, "all of the above"; but I'm wondering about percentages here. If Alfred Kinsey had a time machine and a good working knowledge of late medieval Danish, what book would he be writing?
(On the plus side, it's also the start of the Little Ice Age, so there's a plentiful supply of cold water.)
(1) I have my suspicions about literal monks.
(2) King Christian I and Dyveke. Søren Norby and his long-term not-wife, IIRC. And come to think of it, Lady Inger of Austratt's husband had an illegitimate son, mother unknown to me.
(3) I know of at least two cases of this one: in one they desperately wanted to marry but fell within the proscribed bounds of consanguinity, leading to scandal and hisexecution... accidental death... murder... well, he ended up dead; in the other he offered to marry her but her outraged father refused, leading to scandal, his exile, and her immuration. The 16th century has the best scandals; see also (4).
(4) Bishop Stygge Krumpen in Børglum lived openly with the married Elsebeth Gyldenstjerne at the monastery in Børglum. See also (1).
So, early 16th century Denmark, on the cutting edge of the Reformation. Noble maidens are getting married in their late teens or so; noble men in their 30s. My question: during their hormonal teens and twenties, are these "noble and wellborn knights":
a) living like proverbial monks(1)
b) sublimating their frustrations into politics and war
c) visiting those women about town who by law have to wear red hoods
d) visiting other lower class women(2)
e) visiting other lower class men
f) visiting their unmarried female friends and promising to be really really careful(3)
g) visiting their married female friends(4)
h) visiting their male friends
i) other ____________
Yes, obviously, "all of the above"; but I'm wondering about percentages here. If Alfred Kinsey had a time machine and a good working knowledge of late medieval Danish, what book would he be writing?
(On the plus side, it's also the start of the Little Ice Age, so there's a plentiful supply of cold water.)
(1) I have my suspicions about literal monks.
(2) King Christian I and Dyveke. Søren Norby and his long-term not-wife, IIRC. And come to think of it, Lady Inger of Austratt's husband had an illegitimate son, mother unknown to me.
(3) I know of at least two cases of this one: in one they desperately wanted to marry but fell within the proscribed bounds of consanguinity, leading to scandal and his
(4) Bishop Stygge Krumpen in Børglum lived openly with the married Elsebeth Gyldenstjerne at the monastery in Børglum. See also (1).
No, the title is optional
Date: 2008-03-29 12:10 am (UTC)- her step-mother was Anne Ludvigsdatter Rosenkrantz (who incidentally had a sister Gjertrud)
- her sister-in-law Olivia Tygesdatter Krabbe's mother was Anne Nielsdatter Rosenkrantz (and said sister-in-law also had a sister Gertrud)
- another sister-in-law, whose name I don't know, may have been a sister-in-law of Ludvig Nielsen Rosenkrantz
- the bishop's mother was Anne Styggesdatter Rosenkrantz
I'm approximately as surprised to find so many connections as to find so many Annes, which is to say not at all. :-) All the noble families intermarried all over the place.