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"Should a smack as part of good parental correction be a criminal offence in New Zealand?"

I know which box I want to tick in order to (hopefully) get the result I want. But oh my goodness that question has even more things wrong with it than I'd gathered from being vaguely aware of the news coverage about how wrong it is. It's like some terrible hybrid of presupposition-tricksiness (see also "Have you stopped beating your wife?) and layers-of-negation-tricksiness (see also Proposition 8).

To refine my earlier-today modification of a colleague's question on Twitter today: "Should confusing and biased referendum questions as part of a just democratic society be legal in New Zealand?"

Fortunately the stupid thing isn't binding on the Government. If it were I don't see how it'd be possible for the Government to figure out what the heck the results meant.

Date: 2009-08-03 06:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smallcaps.livejournal.com
Hahaha. THAT QUESTION. Seriously.

Date: 2009-08-03 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-knight.livejournal.com
My answer would be 'no' - I am against criminalising people needlessly. On the other hand, using an implement to deliberately hit a child - ruler, belt, whatever - is never ok, because if you have enough deliberation to assemble your tools you also have enough time to think about a better way of dealing with the situation.

But yes, without better definitions of 'a' and 'smack' and 'good parental correction' it's a bit of a bastard question to answer.

Date: 2009-08-03 10:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sciamanna.livejournal.com
What she said

Date: 2009-08-03 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com
"No means yes" is a standard aspect of referendum questions in the USA. Sometimes it is deliberate.

Date: 2009-08-04 07:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] poetrychook.livejournal.com
Not only is it not binding on the government, but the government has already said that they are not going to change the law, no matter what the referendum results are.


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